These seem to be new on the market. I just bought a pair and thought I'd share my observations.
What makes these interesting, and superior, is the use of "outriggers" to attach the strap to the goggles. In the photos on the product page you'll see each strap attaches to a hinged wishbone-like device that pivots in holes that are drilled above and below the lenses. This allows the edges of the goggles to fit close to your face even if you put the strap outside the helmet.
For me, this is a winner. I like a 3/4 helmet and goggles, but don't like having the strap inside the helmet, which makes it hard to do things like stop, put on my glasses and read a map. With the strap on the outside I just push the goggles down around my neck and get down to business with the helmet still on.
These devices are called outriggers in the off-road and skiiing goggle markets, but I couldn't find any other street motorcycle designs that have them. Bertoni doesn't call them outriggers and doesn't really make a big deal about them, but I think they should.
The goggles were drop-shipped to me in 5 or so days directly from Lonate Pozzolo, a suburb of Milano, at no (additional) charge since I am a Prime member. The Bertoni web site says they are polycarbonate, with 100% UV protection, and an anti-fog coating, and they seem not to be polarized (a good thing in my book).
I consider this outrigger system to be one of three notable developments in using goggles with helmets since the beginning of the 20th century.
Briefly, the history goes like this: The first goggles (used in motoring, including in cars, motorcycles, and planes) were simple leather straps along the Lone Ranger design, with inset lenses.
By the First World War, pilots had adopted leather flying helmets, which were thinly padded. Also by that time, goggles had developed box-like casings for the lenses, with the goggle straps attached to the leading edges of the boxes, which helped to keep the goggles sealed to the pilot's face where the strap goes over the helmet.
Leather flying helmets remained the state of the art through World War II, and goggles changed only slightly. The Stadium Mark 9 goggle, which I think may have appeared late in the war, had cantilevered strap attachments that protruded maybe 3/4 of an inch to provide leverage to keep the goggles flat against the pilot's face at the helmet juncture. This innovation probably occurred when thicker helmets were introduced.
After the Second World War military pilots adopted hardshell helmets with built-in visors, and no one worried much about goggle design after that. Some motorcyclists still use the Mark 9 (I had a set as a teenager), which is not designed to close the face gap with large, modern helmets. Motorcyclists who wanted to use goggles began to wear them inside the helmet (unless they wore no helmet, or a leather flying helmet, or a pudding-bowl half helmet).
Now we have the Bertoni AF113A, only about 70 years after the introduction of the Mark 9! The wishbone outriggers work better than the Mark 9's cantilevers, and seem no more intrusive on the field of vision. (There is, though, some reduction compared to a clear windscreen, I think.)
This Bertoni product is not perfect, but it's pretty good. Enjoy one before they're withdrawn due to lack of sales. (Motorcyclists as a whole don't seem too analytical about such things.)
Bertoni also makes some other, nicer goggles that have leather or calfskin-covered frames with suede leather where the goggles touch the rider's skin. Maybe someday they'll make an outrigger-equipped model with some of those deluxe features. On the whole, their goggles are impressive examples of Italian design.
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Bertoni is a well known italian brand of sport sunglasses coming from a 30-year experience in the sport–optic market of his technicians. Bertoni is well appreciated because of its comfortable and well fitting design plus the latest technical discoveries for lenses and materials. The wide range of models have been developed to suit all kind of sports: motorcycle, cycling, running, fishing, watersports, skiing, tennis, shooting and many others.
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Product Description
Bertoni Motorcycle Goggles with Clear Antifog Lenses Adjustable Strap with Outriggers - Mat Black AF113A by Bertoni Italy
Designed for helmets: with integrated Outriggers for a perfect fitting over the helmet, is able to achieve a tighter seal to the face than any other motorcycle street goggles. Adjustable lenght of the strap, it adapts to all the helmets - Wraparound design: protects the eyes from wind and bad weather, provide enhanced peripheral vision. Impact resistant lens - Antifog coating - 100% UV Protection - Special ventilation to prevent lenses fogging up. Optically correct lenses: lenses are decentered in order to avoid any optical distorsion. Anti-misting aerators into top and bottom of frames, prevent lenses to fog up. The inside of the front frame is covered by a soft sponge windproof and comfortable.
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AreatorsAnti-misting aerators into top and bottom of frames, prevent lenses to fog up. |
FittingProtects the eyes from wind and bad weather, provide enhanced peripheral vision. |
Helmet FriendlyWith integrated outriggers for a perfect fitting over the helmet. |
Antifog Lenses
The lens is treated with a special resin which removes the condensation which forms on the surface of the lens when passing from hot to cold. Clear lens is recomended in low brightness condition or for night driving.
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| Lenses | Antifog Smoke cat. 3 | Photochromic Antifog cat. 0-3 | 4 Interchangeable Antifog Lenses |
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Bertoni Motorcycle Sunglasses - Milan since 1989
Bertoni is a well known italian brand of sport sunglasses coming from a twenty-year experience in the sport–optic market of his technicians. The motorcycle goggles by Bertoni are well appreciated because of their comfortable and well fitting design plus the latest technical discoveries for lenses and materials. Cycling and running Sunglasses thanks to the wrap-around design that improves peripheral vision and protects your eyes from wind and weather and thanks to photochromic lenses that adapt to changes in light, making them unique and indispensable in any weather condition, allow Bertoni to stand out also in these disciplines. The wide range of models have been developed to suit all kind of sports: motorcycle sunglasses, cycling, running, parachuting, fishing, watersports, skiing, golf, beach volley, horse riding, tennis, shooting and many others.
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Not safe for motorcycling
After a short motorcycle ride wearing these Bertoni goggles I found that they performed worse than wrap around sunglasses, as they actually let bugs in that cannot get out. The wind velocity and sand, dirt, and road debris entering through all the large vents over and under my eyes made my eyes water. Regular wrap around sunglasses protect better than that. I had to modify my goggles so they now function as protective eyewear should. I used a black mouldable glue (Sugru) to fill in all the air vents as shown in the pic (the left side), then did the same on the other side. I may end up filling in the vent holes on the bottom also. Before I modified them, they were not safe or usable for motorcycle riding.On the other hand, I would rate these goggles very good for quality of construction, design, fit, and appearance. There are many different brands of goggles on the market and when I need new ones I would not buy Bertoni's again unless they have been improved to be functional as protective eyewear.
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